Jerry Buting and Dean Strang are the world’s most talked about lawyers in 2016 having become household names while representing Steven Avery in Netflix’s hit series 'Making a Murderer.' This week they joined Jarlath while on tour in Ireland to give a sobering account of the truth behind a justice system in which legal blackmail (30:00) and unbelievable contradictions in trials are commonplace, and where the search for conviction dominates the search for truth (40:00).
Jerry and Dean discuss how the legal system in the United States has not moved on with the rest of the world (8:00) and how being jaded while working in the criminal justice system causes people to lose sight of defendants as human beings (22:00). This conversation naturally progresses into discussions of the Steven Avery conviction and how different things would look were the police to have handled vital evidence professionally (1:07:00) and the deeply disturbing culture of police brutality in America (1:01:00).
From Jerry’s honest account of his misjudgement which was a huge wake up call for his career (21:00), to the witness who creeped Dean out during the Avery trial (48:00), this episode is a fascinating listen.
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